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	<title>Commentaires sur : Swivel : partage de données et graphiques</title>
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	<description>...contre la planéité</description>
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		<title>Par : Francois Guité</title>
		<link>http://www.francoisguite.com/2006/12/swivel-partage-de-donnees-et-graphiques/#comment-2608</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francois Guité]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 00:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for dropping by to shed some light on Swivel&#039;s position regarding credibility. I agree that both academic and socially reviewed information can coexist. The fact of the matter is that we are just producing too much information for academics to review everything. Web users must learn to do their own editing and reviewing. Hopefully, in time, net users will develop the skills to be critical about the credibility of content. Let&#039;s also hope that people will be more inclined to correct than to criticize.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for dropping by to shed some light on Swivel&rsquo;s position regarding credibility. I agree that both academic and socially reviewed information can coexist. The fact of the matter is that we are just producing too much information for academics to review everything. Web users must learn to do their own editing and reviewing. Hopefully, in time, net users will develop the skills to be critical about the credibility of content. Let&rsquo;s also hope that people will be more inclined to correct than to criticize.</p>
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		<title>Par : Brian Mulloy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Mulloy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello.  Thank you for posting about Swivel.  I can read enough French to get the idea of the comments (plus Google Translator helps).  I hope you will tolerate my English response.  Coming from Detroit, I&#039;m nearly French-Canadian :-)

The debate about data credibility is an important one and the sentiment at the blog post pointed out by Clément Laberge is a key part of the debate.

However, our belief at Swivel is the same as Sylvain&#039;s.

Dictionaries and encyclopedias are powerful because they are academically peer-reviewed.  Peer review is important.  But at Swivel we think it should be less academic and involve many more peers (as I mentioned at Joe Wikert&#039;s blog).  The data belongs to all of us and the shaping of truth should not be the exclusive tool of a small elite.

Brian Mulloy
CEO &amp; Cofounder
www.swivel.com
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello.  Thank you for posting about Swivel.  I can read enough French to get the idea of the comments (plus Google Translator helps).  I hope you will tolerate my English response.  Coming from Detroit, I&rsquo;m nearly French-Canadian <img src="http://www.francoisguite.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p>The debate about data credibility is an important one and the sentiment at the blog post pointed out by Clément Laberge is a key part of the debate.</p>
<p>However, our belief at Swivel is the same as Sylvain&rsquo;s.</p>
<p>Dictionaries and encyclopedias are powerful because they are academically peer-reviewed.  Peer review is important.  But at Swivel we think it should be less academic and involve many more peers (as I mentioned at Joe Wikert&rsquo;s blog).  The data belongs to all of us and the shaping of truth should not be the exclusive tool of a small elite.</p>
<p>Brian Mulloy<br />
CEO &#038; Cofounder<br />
<a href="http://www.swivel.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.swivel.com</a></p>
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		<title>Par : Francois Guité</title>
		<link>http://www.francoisguite.com/2006/12/swivel-partage-de-donnees-et-graphiques/#comment-2606</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francois Guité]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bonne réplique, Sylvain. Si seulement les enseignants étaient conscients qu&#039;il y a moins d&#039;erreurs dans Wikipedia que dans les manuels scolaires.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonne réplique, Sylvain. Si seulement les enseignants étaient conscients qu&rsquo;il y a moins d&rsquo;erreurs dans Wikipedia que dans les manuels scolaires.</p>
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		<title>Par : Sylvain</title>
		<link>http://www.francoisguite.com/2006/12/swivel-partage-de-donnees-et-graphiques/#comment-2605</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sylvain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Et dire que j&#039;ai entendu une collègue me dire récemment : &quot;Ouais, mais Wikipédia, on sait pas qui a écrit l&#039;article!&quot;. Ce à quoi j&#039;ai rétorqué immédiatement : &quot;Ouais, mais dans un dictionnaire ou une encyclopédie, sais-tu qui a écrit tel article?&quot;

Il est vrai que des erreurs peuvent se glisser dans Wiki, mais pouvoir les corriger est très formateur.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Et dire que j&rsquo;ai entendu une collègue me dire récemment : &laquo;&nbsp;Ouais, mais Wikipédia, on sait pas qui a écrit l&rsquo;article!&nbsp;&raquo;. Ce à quoi j&rsquo;ai rétorqué immédiatement : &laquo;&nbsp;Ouais, mais dans un dictionnaire ou une encyclopédie, sais-tu qui a écrit tel article?&nbsp;&raquo;</p>
<p>Il est vrai que des erreurs peuvent se glisser dans Wiki, mais pouvoir les corriger est très formateur.</p>
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		<title>Par : Francois Guité</title>
		<link>http://www.francoisguite.com/2006/12/swivel-partage-de-donnees-et-graphiques/#comment-2604</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francois Guité]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 04:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Merci de signaler la &lt;a href=&quot;http://jwikert.typepad.com/the_average_joe/2006/12/swivel_im_both_.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;critique&lt;/a&gt;, Clément. Wikert marque un bon point en soulignant la facilité à exagérer des corrélations. Mais même dans l&#039;exemple qu&#039;il cite, on remarquera que la communauté est rapidement intervenue dans les commentaires pour justement faire valoir ce point.

Les écarts et les erreurs sont aussi de fameuses sources d&#039;apprentissages quand elles sont corrigées. C&#039;est toute la beauté de la chose, à mon avis.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merci de signaler la <a href="http://jwikert.typepad.com/the_average_joe/2006/12/swivel_im_both_.html" rel="nofollow">critique</a>, Clément. Wikert marque un bon point en soulignant la facilité à exagérer des corrélations. Mais même dans l&rsquo;exemple qu&rsquo;il cite, on remarquera que la communauté est rapidement intervenue dans les commentaires pour justement faire valoir ce point.</p>
<p>Les écarts et les erreurs sont aussi de fameuses sources d&rsquo;apprentissages quand elles sont corrigées. C&rsquo;est toute la beauté de la chose, à mon avis.</p>
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		<title>Par : Clément Laberge</title>
		<link>http://www.francoisguite.com/2006/12/swivel-partage-de-donnees-et-graphiques/#comment-2603</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clément Laberge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Un commentaire critique sur Swivel:

http://jwikert.typepad.com/the_average_joe/2006/12/swivel_im_both_.html


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Un commentaire critique sur Swivel:</p>
<p><a href="http://jwikert.typepad.com/the_average_joe/2006/12/swivel_im_both_.html" rel="nofollow">http://jwikert.typepad.com/the_average_joe/2006/12/swivel_im_both_.html</a></p>
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